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	<title>Comments on: KARL - Faith Shelter</title>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks friends for all the great convo this stirs up. it reminds of one other concept i connect with in terms of all my remodeling efforts: i am never done.
the "shelter" is each week morphing into something new, different. it is fun to see in each season what will emerge! 
lets keep hacking away,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks friends for all the great convo this stirs up. it reminds of one other concept i connect with in terms of all my remodeling efforts: i am never done.<br />
the &#8220;shelter&#8221; is each week morphing into something new, different. it is fun to see in each season what will emerge!<br />
lets keep hacking away,</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
		<link>http://blog.therefugeonline.org/2010/08/30/karl-faith-shelter/comment-page-1/#comment-1849</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember one time helping a friend of a friend move into a temporary place, but a VERY elaborate log home in the mountains.  I carried a few things in, looked around and LITERALLY was getting nauseated.  I sat there kind of stunned, holding my stomach and my friend asked me what was wrong...when I told him, he said, "yea, I know what you mean."  There seems to be a limit to how much we can handle of anything.  So, to be honest with you...I think you're right about God intending faith communities to be something from what appears(to the world) to be "nothing"...or what's on hand.  I think when it is that way, people feel welcomed, invited, loved, accepted and safe.  It doesn't make us uncomfortable or want to put on some kind of powerful, "loud", fake exterior just to fit in or try to BE a super cathedral Christian!  It makes us want to come in, be ourselves and kick our feet up as if we were AT HOME!  Ya know, honestly Karl, the "what's on hand" made me think of Jesus feeding the four thousand...the five thousand! :-)  How fun for you to take something from what's on hand and see how God feeds your sheep!  God bless you, Pastor Karl and thanks for the great post!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember one time helping a friend of a friend move into a temporary place, but a VERY elaborate log home in the mountains.  I carried a few things in, looked around and LITERALLY was getting nauseated.  I sat there kind of stunned, holding my stomach and my friend asked me what was wrong&#8230;when I told him, he said, &#8220;yea, I know what you mean.&#8221;  There seems to be a limit to how much we can handle of anything.  So, to be honest with you&#8230;I think you&#8217;re right about God intending faith communities to be something from what appears(to the world) to be &#8220;nothing&#8221;&#8230;or what&#8217;s on hand.  I think when it is that way, people feel welcomed, invited, loved, accepted and safe.  It doesn&#8217;t make us uncomfortable or want to put on some kind of powerful, &#8220;loud&#8221;, fake exterior just to fit in or try to BE a super cathedral Christian!  It makes us want to come in, be ourselves and kick our feet up as if we were AT HOME!  Ya know, honestly Karl, the &#8220;what&#8217;s on hand&#8221; made me think of Jesus feeding the four thousand&#8230;the five thousand! <img src='http://blog.therefugeonline.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  How fun for you to take something from what&#8217;s on hand and see how God feeds your sheep!  God bless you, Pastor Karl and thanks for the great post!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this..A LOT.  What came to my mind is the contrast between a cabin I lived in for a year in Evergreen and the houses I clean windows for in Winter Park.  I called the cabin my "found object cabin".  Apparently, in an effort to save money, the owner used whatever was laying around in his back yard to build the cabin--mismatched counter tops, various pieces of linoleum, and the carpet, oh my...you get the picture.  Quite a contrast to the houses I'm in in Winter Park...every stone meticulously laid, every log, or beam or siding erected with a meticulous eye overlooking the process, so no error is made.  And the interiors, so flawless in design and decor.  Museums really.

Flawless communities don't cultivate an environment for life and all it's complexities to be lived out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this..A LOT.  What came to my mind is the contrast between a cabin I lived in for a year in Evergreen and the houses I clean windows for in Winter Park.  I called the cabin my &#8220;found object cabin&#8221;.  Apparently, in an effort to save money, the owner used whatever was laying around in his back yard to build the cabin&#8211;mismatched counter tops, various pieces of linoleum, and the carpet, oh my&#8230;you get the picture.  Quite a contrast to the houses I&#8217;m in in Winter Park&#8230;every stone meticulously laid, every log, or beam or siding erected with a meticulous eye overlooking the process, so no error is made.  And the interiors, so flawless in design and decor.  Museums really.</p>
<p>Flawless communities don&#8217;t cultivate an environment for life and all it&#8217;s complexities to be lived out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 00:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unique we are, like no other and safe so safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unique we are, like no other and safe so safe.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even when the refuge started, my mindset was to build that big church. i'll have to admit, i was disappointed when i found out there was a different plan. it didn't take long, however, to see the value of doing community this other way. i have never felt safer, more accepted or more loved than i do in the little lean to, you helped build. there is something beautiful about the church, that has been built with us leftover scrapes. i think God is into recycling. i think He calls it redemption, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even when the refuge started, my mindset was to build that big church. i&#8217;ll have to admit, i was disappointed when i found out there was a different plan. it didn&#8217;t take long, however, to see the value of doing community this other way. i have never felt safer, more accepted or more loved than i do in the little lean to, you helped build. there is something beautiful about the church, that has been built with us leftover scrapes. i think God is into recycling. i think He calls it redemption, though.</p>
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